Ok here we go, i would like that users automatically have upload rights to the albums already created or about to be created in the future, the "manage all" permission unfortunately also gives users the permission to wipe the album out of existence,
the only way apparently was to assign a user to the album from the "Managed Albums" box then new options popped up which was "edit" "upload" and "unpublished" from which i can tick the upload checkbox.
The register_user at options > plugins could have done this but it doesn't have the "Managed Albums" box.
So is there a way to make it such that users are automatically granted album upload rights only?